Interesting viewpoint by New Testament scholar N.T. Wright about the creationist viewpoint.
Though I see a connection between gnosticism and present-day fundamentalism, after listening to Wright, I now see more clearly its connection with deism, in terms of God intervening and then pulling back whenever He felt like it, and the shortcomings of adhering to that philosophy.
In Wright’s presentation, God is much more imminent and involved when you remove special/particular divine intervention from the creation process.
I’m sorry I’m confused. Does he believe in evolution or not? To me evolution is false and created as an excuse to circumvent the need to believe in a God. Christians trying to force evolution to align with scripture are only doing so because everyone around them says evolution is true.
First off, thank you for visiting my site! It’s my hope that you visit often.
Second, to address your question, when you go to the 2:14 mark on the clip, N.T. Wright says, “I’m happy to say that species have evolved, and I’m perfectly happy to say that that’s how God was at work,…”
So he has no problem with the evolutionary point of view, saying that evolution is the main process of God handles or operates with life. (I know, I know, I think this response won’t sit well with you at all whatsoever… but just hold on.)
I believe that what N.T. Wright does have a problem with is that he believes (along with many other scholars) that biblical literalists aren’t reading the Bible or the Genesis accounts in the proper way, thereby leading to a gross misrepresentation of God and how he operates in the world. He’s saying that creationists and literalists are missing the entire point and meaning of the creation story. That’s the main thrust of his critique, esp. in the second half of the video.
If you go back and read the Genesis account in its proper context, history, do proper exegesis (i.e. go back and ask who wrote the text? why was it written? who was it written for? when was it written? what was the authorial intent?), then you’ll come away with a proper interpretation and more truer understanding of the text.
I think N.T. Wright would argue that biblical literalists/creationists are trying to force their creationism to align with scripture and thereby being unfaithful to the text and creating a false dichotomy by saying, “You either believe our interpretation or if you don’t, then you’re not a true Christian” – which is often sadly the rhetoric that is commonly used.
Evolution and Christianity need not be enemies – both can enrich one another to come closer to the truth.
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However, I’m sure that you’re aware of all the arguments presented here and this is a long, long topic and you’ll find endless discussions and debates back and forth b/w theistic evolutionists and creationists, etc., and they can get quite testy and nasty at times.
I hope it doesn’t come to this here.
I’m well aware how emotional people can get and will get when it comes to belief, faith, and worldviews.
Sorry, I thought wordpress would tell me you responded 🙂 It didn’t. Weird. Oh you don’t have to worry about me sir. Nasty is very un-Jesus like 🙂 Nasty never wins an argument anyway. Uhm… agree to disagree for now then. I have a few opinions, but I need to find some sources before writing something on it.
If you click on my name I think it will take you to my refrigeration blog, but skepticswelcome.org is my blog related to things not in the bible, but still pertains (evolution, creationism, history). There’s nothing much there right now, but when I finally do write something on this particular topic it would be awesome if you would give me your thoughts.
What does N.T. Wright say about 1 Corinthians 15:38-39….each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish.
The Bible says the universe and Earth are very old – 2 Peter 3:5, Psalm 90:2 & 102:25, Proverbs 8:22-29, Ephesians 1:4, etc.
I agree with Old Earth Creationist Hugh Ross about Genesis 1.