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A Critical Assessment of the Reformed Doctrines of Original Sin and Solus Christus (Salvation in Christ Alone)

 

 

So yesterday, we had an interesting discussion on the doctrines of Solus Christus (Salvation in Christ Alone) and Original Sin.

 

I just want to make this clear that these critical assessments of these core Reformed doctrines are in no way to undermine or question the validity of the Christian faith.  We raise these issues and challenges to strengthen the faith and understand what Christians actually believe in.

 

However, I understand how emotionally involved persons who have adopted these traditions and doctrines to heart are and who take this personally.  And I’m fully aware how nasty debates can become, even between faithful brothers and sisters in Christ.  We do it because we take the truth seriously.  We don’t want to engage in polemics attacking or pushing someone to adopt or reject another point of view.  Its purpose is to raise thoughtful questions and engage and spur others to think things through.

 

We live in a complex and interconnected world today and many worldviews will come into contact with one another.  It is important to take other viewpoints into consideration and call out those that do not make sense, are flatly wrong, or seem antiquated.

 

We raise questions, not to cause people to doubt their faith, but more so to realize that an unexamined faith is not worth believing in (to modify Socrates’ famous quote that “An unexamined life is not worth living”).

 

We welcome thoughtful discussion and disagreements with the ideas and viewpoints we present here, so please do comment if you wish.

 

This is theology in action – faith seeking understanding.

 

 

 

 

The Tenets of Reformed Theology/Calvinsim

 

John Calvin (1509 – 1564)

 

 

For our next meeting next Sunday, May 18, we’ll focus on the theology of John Calvin.

 

Please write a one page summary of one doctrine of Calvinism or Reformed Theology that you are familiar with and state your reasons for or against that particular doctrine (or one that you might have strong questions about).

 

In your summary, see if you spot any logical, philosophical, or even biblical inconsistencies or contradictions within Reformed theology.  Or defend your position against any criticisms against Reformed theology- do you agree with a particular Reformed doctrine and state your reasons as to why.

 

You may go into the historical background and development of a particular doctrine as well.

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Update: Chapter 17 – Part II: A House Divided (1517 – 1660) – Book of Common Prayer, Thomas Cranmer, Anabaptists, Tyndale Bible

 

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William Tyndale, before being strangled and burned at the stake, cries out, “Lord, open the King of England’s eyes”. woodcut from Foxe’s Book of Martyrs (1563).

 

So here are our submissions for today on the middle two sections of chapter 17: Reformations Radical and Magisterial: Anabaptists and Henry VIII and Strassburg, England and Geneva (1540 – 60)

 

Interestingly, there were no submissions about the gigantic elephant in the room, John Calvin.  However, he was a big topic in our discussions today of course; most of the topic focusing heavily on the doctrines of predestination and limited atonement.  In the course of our discussion, it seemed evident for the most part that we either flatly rejected those two doctrines or had serious questions about them.  In the upcoming weeks, look for more extra thoughts on Reformed theology and Calvinism by others in the group.

 

Though I do like our approach in tackling topics that we weren’t that familiar with before like Anabaptists and the Book of Common Prayers.  For the most part, we’ve been part of the Presbyterian Church and or surrounded by the Calvinism that is so prevalent in our church lives for so many years that we wanted to tackle other lesser known material.  When you recycle stuff you already know well, things get somewhat stale or boring after a while.

 

We also explored the question on whether or not the Reformation was necessary.  Most in the group agreed that it was necessary because of all the corruption by the Catholic Church.  Although, it was at the expense of where there was no more centralized authority and bringing the Bible to the masses by translating it into the common vernacular, as Luther and Tyndale did, led to personal/private interpretations of the Bible, which of course led to gross misinterpretations of the Bible as well- then that produces misleading and overly complex and unnecessary doctrines as well.  And of course, one of the major aftermaths of the Reformation was that it would spawn over 42,000 different Christian denominations worldwide.   There are some who believe the Reformation should never have happened and others who say that it was inevitable and necessary happening for the benefit of Christendom overall.

 

 

 

 

Views on Propitiation and Universal vs. Limited Atonement

 

sacrificial lamb propitiation

 

Some views on the Reformed theology of propitiation and questions about whether or not there are biblical justifications for universalism (i.e. that all will be saved).

 

Submitted by Michael.

 

 

Chapter 17: A House Divided (1517 – 1660) – Part II: Anabaptists, Henry VIII, William Tyndale, Archbishop Cranmer, and John Calvin

 

Henry VIII being crowned c British Library Bridgeman Art Library

King Henry VIII of England (1491 – 1547)

 

Hi everyone, we will meet this Sunday (new day), May 4 for our meeting.

 

For this week please read the next two sections of Chapter 17: Reformations Radical and Magisterial: Anabaptists and Henry VIII and Strassburg, England and Geneva (1540 – 60).

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Predestination/Election – A Biblical Perspective

 

predestination 266x300 Predestination and salvation

What does this mean? Is this interpretation even in the Bible?

 

Since the group will be encountering John Calvin very soon in MacCulloch’s book, I thought I’d get a head start and write about one of the most famous and also controversial doctrines of the Protestant/Reformed theology – predestination or election.

 

It’s definitely a hot potato topic and if you want to rile up a bunch of Christians and see some heated conversations, just introduce the topic of predestination, sit back, enjoy, and watch the sparks fly.

 

Well, here’s my entry into this eternal theological boxing ring for all its worth.

 

Also, as you’ll see, it’s listed on a new sub-menu called “Reformed Theology” under “Theology” at the top menu bar.

 

Though I know what I present won’t be a novel position by any means, it did give me pause to think when I first read it in Eugene Boring and Fred Cradock’s The People’s New Testament Commentary (Westminster John Knox Press, 2004).

 

I’d love to hear your thoughts about this topic as well, so please do share if you have any.

 

 

 

 

UPDATE: New Submissions for Chapter 17: A House Divided (1517 – 1660) – Part I: Martin Luther and Huldrych Zwingli

 

The Marburg Colloquy is the name given to the meeting between Ulrich Zwingli and Martin Luther in 1529.

 

So here are the new updates from last night’s meeting.  I also added Chris’ submission for last chapter that deals with anti-semitism here below Michael’s entry.

 

Another interesting discussion once again last night.  We covered a lot of material and spent a lot of time on Protestant theology.

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Chapter 17: A House Divided (1517 – 1660) – Part I – Martin Luther and Huldrych Zwingli

 

For next week we will cover the first two sections of Chapter 17A Door in Wittenberg and The Farmers’ War and Zwingli.

 

Lucas Cranach d.Ä., Martin Luther

Martin Luther (1483 – 1546), by Lucas Cranach, 1529

 

We will be going into the heart of the Protestant Reformation by focusing on Martin Luther in Germany (or the Holy Roman Empire I should say specifically because the state of Germany didn’t exist during this time) and Huldrych Zwingli of the Swiss Confederacy.

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Update: Chapter 16 – Perspectives of the True Church: Part II (1492 – 1517) – The Expulsion of the Jews in Spain, the Spanish Inquisition, and Erasmus

Here are our responses from last night as we finished up Chapter 16.

We focused on the Spanish Inquisition and the legacy that Erasmus left in influencing the Protestant Reformation.

 

We had a lively discussion last night, mainly spurned on by Erasmus’ preference of Origen’s theology over and against Augustine.  We discussed the nature of original sin, and I was surprised to find out that basically half the group still held on to (or were at least somewhat reluctant about abandoning) the doctrine of original sin.  Though we all agreed with the basic understanding of human evolution, most of the group still believed that God somehow interfered in the process and specially endowed human beings with the capacity to know and understand God.  (I personally am in the very small minority of believers who believe that was not the case – in terms of divine interference in human evolution – but I’ll leave that for a future post perhaps.)

 

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Chapter 16: Perspectives of the True Church (1300 – 1517) – Part II

 

King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella

King Fernando (1452 – 1516) and Queen Isabel (1451 – 1504) of Spain

 

For next Thursday, April 10 we will cover the last three sections of Chapter 16: Old Worlds Bring New: Humanism (1300 – 1500), Reforming the Church in the Last Days (1500), Erasmus: New Beginnings?

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